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Monday, August 27, 2012

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tim aka The Godless Heathen

Hang on, there might be a more important issue here. Is Obama actually acknowledging American exceptionalism?

Let us be thankful he didn’t insist on including Muslims with their “contributions” to space exploration.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/05/nasa-chief-frontier-better-relations-muslims/

BroKen

This isn't narcissistic. This is just the President doing his job. It is not out of line for the President to comment on the passing of an American hero. The rule is, "Would it bother you if your guy did it?" Of course not. There is narcissism in Obama, but this isn't it.

Locutisprime

nar·cis·sism
   [nahr-suh-siz-em] Show IPA
noun
1.
inordinate fascination with oneself; excessive self-love; vanity. Synonyms: self-centeredness, smugness, egocentrism.

I'd say that when everything that the man presents has a self aggrandizing perspective or commentary? I'd call that narcissistic.

From the Bin Ladin raid going forward, Obama is always a central theme or the center of the "I" did that commentary.

Obama silhouetted against the night sky seemingly starring into space and the stars while he gives a soliloquy of his personal reflections on Neil Armstrong?

I must respectfully disagree Broken.

Rick

Given the rest of the evidence for the man's narcissism as backdrop and context... yes, I have to respectfully disagree with Broken as well...

BroKen

The guy has an enormous ego, but most politicians do and it would probably be impossible to run for President without it. Now his statements about getting Bin Laden.... as Krauthammer's critique, "Imagine Eisenhower talking of the D-day invasion saying, 'I did this and I decided that...' it is inconceivable!" Yes, clearly he is a narcissist beyond what is necessary to run for President. But this? Reagan spoke after the Challenger disaster. Bush after Columbia broke up. It really is part of the job. The picture is inconsequential... just politics.

It moves into Obama derangement syndrome when we take whatever he does and blast him for it. If our guy did it, there would be nothing wrong with it. There is nothing wrong with Obama doing this. In fact it is kind of a nice sentiment. The picture, well, who cares?

Rick

Except BroKen... it's the picture that was posted on the Obama Tumblr page with the words...

You can't separate the picture from the words...

If it were just the words, there'd be no post here decrying Obama's narcissism.

You're not making any sense to me on this.

It's the picture that is the essence of his narcissism, not the words... and you want to remove the picture and say it's meaningless...

I would gently suggest that it's your removal of the essence of this post while making an argument that the essence is meaningless... that is meaningless...

BroKen

Oh, come on. It's the President looking at the moon with text about the man who landed on the moon. Big deal. You have a picture of yourself on your blog. I start my posts with "by BroKen". So what. Is Obama a big ego? Sure. But I think we lose credibility if we call him out on things which do not really express that big ego.... more than any other politician out there.

The picture expresses what the Armstrong family requested; "see the moon smiling down at you, think of Neil Armstrong and give him a wink."

Locutisprime

Broken, the problem is the picture that accompanies the words. Plain and simple. Absent the picture, which was obviously staged, the words are a nice touch as would be expected of whom ever is sitting in the office at such a time.

You speak of Reagan and others engaging in same and similar. Well, I remember those others including Reagan and what they did and how they handled it. I remember when Reagan went to Pointe du Hoc on the cliffs at Normandy on the fortieth anniversary of D Day and gave one of the most heartfelt and beautiful speeches short of the Gettysburg address ever delivered.

I also remember ten years later when Bill Clinton went there for the fiftieth anniversary and engaged in staged photo ops on the beach and at the cemetery, but at least he gave a moving tribute that focused on the veterans and the honored dead and not on him.

I also remember the 65th anniversary in 2009 when Obama attended the D Day ceremonies in France. As i recall, he was more engaged in snubbing the French president than tendering heartfelt honor and respect for the men who died so that he could become president.

So yes, I will stand the records of just about any other president up against this man, including that of Bill Clinton and hands down it immediately becomes obvious where Obama's heart and mind are at in moments like these. It has absolutely nothing to do with unfair or partisan comparisons.

Neil Armstrong was an American hero and his nation will honor and remember him in that fashion, regardless of the actions of the present occupant of the white house.

BroKen

I see. For you guys it is one more thing piled on the list of arrogant abuses. In short, it touches a nerve. But it is a little thing which most people will ignore and write off as normal politics. I am afraid that the reaction to this "little thing" will be seen by most as an over-reaction which makes them think the problem is not with the President but with the over-reactors. Stick with the big things which really make the case. Harping on little supporting snippets make us look petty.

tim aka The Godless Heathen

And the picture of Pres. Obama at Dover AFB that was posted on the WH website AFTER the families of the deceased chose against having photos allowed? Yup, not about him.

And Pres. Obama giving a “shot out” before delivery remarks concerning the Fort Hood shooting? Talk about self centered, and bizarre.

Talking about Trayvon Martin, “If I had a child, he’d look like him.” As if Trayvon didn’t resemble his imaginary child he can’t relate.

Talking about the shooting in Denver, “My daughters go to the movies, what if they had been in that theater?" As if he couldn’t feel empathy unless injecting his family into the tragedy.

Finally my personal fav. -

“And so shortly after taking office, I directed Leon Panetta, the director of the C.I.A., to make the killing or capture of Bin Laden the top priority of our war against Al Qaeda, even as we continued our broader efforts to disrupt, dismantle, and defeat his network.
Then, last August, after years of painstaking work by our intelligence community, I was briefed on a possible lead to Bin Laden. It was far from certain, and it took many months to run this thread to ground. I met repeatedly with my national security team as we developed more information about the possibility that we had located Bin Laden hiding within a compound deep inside of Pakistan. And finally, last week, I determined that we had enough intelligence to take action, and authorized an operation to get Osama bin Laden and bring him to justice.”

I,I,I,I…


Yeah, just “little things” BroKen. After awhile the little things actually add up to form the basic makeup of an individual, especially a president.

Rick
I am afraid that the reaction to this "little thing" will be seen by most as an over-reaction which makes them think the problem is not with the President but with the over-reactors.

There are those who may see this as such but given the history of this President and his narcissism (as tim aptly points), those would be the kool-aid drinking psychophants who are beyond reaching... and those who for some reason or another bend over backwards to appease or relate to them.

Stick with the big things which really make the case. Harping on little supporting snippets make us look petty.

I believe Christ himself made reference to acknowledging the importance of dealing with little things and how they might be an indication of how the bigger things are dealt with (Luke 16:10 comes to mind).

The media has refused since Obama came onto the scene to deal with the plethora of the little things that make up this President and in fact have successfully painted a big picture of the man that denies the troubling little things that predicted in no small way where it is that we'd be today.

I'm still not understanding the problem with this post...

The focus of Neil Armstrong's passing should've been Neil Armstong's life and his achievements... this President, as is his modus operandi, injected himself, by the use of this picture, into Neil Armstrong's passing.

You're blinded by your insistent and dare I say appeasing desire to be seen as "fair" to see this.

That seems far more grievous and petty.

Patricia

This has been interesting! There is a picture that was actually posted on the White House site - Obama, Gates and Crowley walking down some steps and Obama is out front all by his exalted self, while Officer Crowley, that awful raaaacist, is taking Mr. Gates by the elbow and helping him down the steps. Priceless! After all the brew-haha about Crowley arresting Gates, etc., this is one of the most telling photos of who and what this president is that I have seen in all the years Dr. Narcissist has been at the helm of our Ship of State. In this case a photo is worth a million words! If I knew how I would send the photo through for your readers.

Locutisprime

http://www.cehwiedel.com/blogs/traces-pix/2009/08/ObamaGatesCrowley.jpg

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