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Tuesday, November 24, 2009

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Mollusk Mike is a fascinating personification of an Atlas Shrugged villain. Whatever anyone does for sake of self-preservation earns his loathing...therefore, whether he realizes it or not he is in love with oblivion and death.

I was brought up in a pious protestant Scandinavian household that was similarly dedicated to self-deprivation and anti-profit, so this whole subject is near and dear to me. I left a comment over there and kept it as civil as I possibly could...as I think anyone possibly could...but the last time we did this (with that Ravine-of-Light lady) my comments still offended. Whatever. I think that's the agenda. If anyone comes along to offer something that rocks the boat, it's all "Huh, I don't understand" or "Whoa whoa whoa, things are gonna get real nasty here in a second!" and "I'm so upset I had to put my dog down." They're all defensive maneuvers.

People who detest life and the wonder of humanity, also detest coherent dialogue. Ever notice that?

It's hard to help the poor if you don't have anything.

I like the way one has said it... probably heard a zillion times... but worth repeating once more... "I'd rather put a new man in his old suit than put a new suit on the old man."

What we end up with with the "social-gospel" is nothing other than a religion of co-dependency... which is a mental condition that is difficult to overcome.... but for those under it's dread sway... it feels so right.

And Rick, that is a very thoughtful and scholarly exploration you have of the subject overall...but the more I discuss things with Mike, the more I think trying to attach him to any such exploration, in any way, is something like buying a Bentley for a snail.

Over at his place I'm making the point -- Christians are obviously allowed to sleep, eat, drink, keep themselves healthy. Somewhere between those staples, and some others, things are no longer allowed according to you...so where do you draw the line? And he goes "here's a line, here's a line" and starts quoting the same verses at me. Line. Get it? He applied a different meaning to the word and used it as an excuse to quote his favorite verses.

Yeah...he's doing "lines" alright.

Engaging any kind of coherent dialogue with Mollusk Mike, is like trying to do the same thing with a randomly selected vagrant found at a bus stop, babbling incoherently to himself. I seriously think something's wrong with his long-term memory. Like it's beyond his capacity to follow another train of thought. And I seriously doubt, in a world where you had to pass a drug test to start a blog, there would even be a "Waving or Drowning." Maybe we're dealing with some homeless guy with a substance abuse problem, just logging on to a terminal in a public library somewhere. That would explain the desire for everyone else to get rid of all their stuff...

His 'engagement' leaves you a little short doesn't it? It's like being teased by the smell of a freshly baked pie on a window sill that's snatched away while your back is turned by a neighbor... you know, the regular guy next door everybody raves about...

Good luck while over there but keep in mind you're one noun or verb away from being deleted by Mike, especially when you're making sense... Making sense is anathema to an ideologue like Mike... I can't help but go to him often because he, for me, so typifies your average leftist, especially your average Religious leftist...

I still wonder what I, as his enemy, have to do to feel his love? It's a 'line' he seemingly has an exception for... would love to hear how he redefines the concept...

Well, my post has been deleted. I don't know if that means something happened to my account or not...don't very much care. If I'm in that exclusive club with you, then whichever one of us is the last one to be Keith Olbermann's Worst Person in the World buys the first round.

No surprise...

And this way, it looks as if he's had the last word and left you speechless...

Manipulative...

But oh so loving and tolerant...

What a crock of crap... and it's so amazing to stop by and read the accolades the man's ideas and posts receives in the comments...

He, and those who think like him, are men without chests...

Yes, sadly, many Catholics who champion social justice pick and choose the bits of Catholic social doctrine they like. It's no question why that's the case. I always like to say that there's something there to tick everyone off. As it should be. Doing Christ's will isn't easy and isn't meant to be.

At the same time, we don't need to distort what's there. Catholic teaching supports private property rights very clearly, as well as the right to earn what one needs to retire without living in need. We also have obligations to do something with our surplus rather than hoard it. You're spot on concerning the left's blindness to subsidiarity. They almost always read it solely as an obligation on people closest to the problem as opposed to a right of the people closest to the problem. Catholic social teaching proposes both rights and obligations, and they're intimately related.

Lo and behold... Mike just posted on love:

The logic is simple and goes like this: Jesus said, "Love your neighbour", who could be described as those closest to us, not just physically, but also culturally and relationally. He also said, "Love your enemies", who could be described as those farthest from us, at least relationally. So we are to love those closest to us and those farthest from us. It seems to me that everyone between those two points should then qualify for love as well.

To put it simply we are to love everyone. (As I've said before this is a great relief because it removes the need to figure out who is worthy of my love and who is not.) This makes sense to me because it seems to line up with the radical love demonstrated by Jesus himself, over and over again. Love everyone.

Mike writing about loving everyone... is a little like Obama writing about being the President of everyone...

It's words... just words...

This time, I'm backing it up here.
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Mike,

We'll just have to file this as my response to all your...stuff.

Obviously, anything else I say will get deleted, just like my last post.

GREAT link, Morgan.
You don't happen to have a copy of what you said in your deleted post, eh? I was looking forward to reading it but missed it before it disappeared.

Update: Got an off-line from Mr. Todd, says he's struggling to figure out what's going on, hasn't deleted anything from me. There's an entry saying I made a post, but the post itself has gone missing.

If that's the case, he's not the first blogger to be flummoxed by such a thing, and his message was courteous in tone & so forth. So I replied that I'd pass his comments along here...the accused is certainly entitled to a defense at the very least.

Take it for what it's worth.

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