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Sunday, October 05, 2008

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The problem with the glass ceiling is that men may have put it there, but women keep it solidly in place because they fitfully keep dragging down women who could break it wide open! Men with multiple agendas and principles live above the ceiling. Women need to break it open, get above our petty jealousies and then debate at the higher levels. But no...NOW would rather endorse a MAN who, by the way, didn't respect a powerful intelligent woman (Clinton) enough to put her on the ticket and break the ceiling open...his ego couldn't handle the fact that a woman might eclipse him during the election. Instead, he went right along with the 'good old boys club' and put another man on the ticket. But hey, let's continue to blame MEN for holding women back. Ladies, grow up.

ProudWoman65,

He not only didn't put her on the ticket...did you see the speech where he, talking about Hillary by name in front of thousands actually flipped her off...to the approving laughter of the thousands? And, then he laughing about just "flipping her off" said, "Yea, get your digs in."

Disgusting.

ProudWoman65, this is why many right-minded women cannot get along very well with the cattiness and spitefulness of most women who work wherever it is. I never could stand the horribleness and tended to hang out with the guys anyway. I never felt like I couldn't get to anywhere I wanted. I just chose not to be overwhelmingly dedicated to work at the expense of my then-growing up family.

You're right. Women need to grow up and act appropriately. Men will never respect us as they should when we act so disrespectfully.

Hillary Clinton, whatever else you can say about her (and I don't want her as president) deserved some kind of consideration and respect after all her hard work for her party. Obama is an idiot.

Makes me like McCain more that he has such a strong wife and surrounds himself with strong women, paying them more in his campaign than the men.

And the beauteous Sarah (to quote Ann Coulter).

I think it's a bad idea to think she's a positive role model...

She abused her power in Alaska trying to fire her ex-Brother-in-law, firing the head of the police and using taxpayer money to go on holidays with her children.

I wouldn't trust her not to attempt to put lipstick on a pig. The Bridge to Nowhere - which she championed - went Nowhere but she, as Alaska's Governor, kept the earmark cash!

She does not coherently answer questions and is an unstable political figure. She is unable to answer simple questions.

Her politics are divisive and offensive.

I'm going to wait it out - and give my vote to a woman who deserves it. Republican or Democrat - I can't justify giving women a bad name by choosing a candidate based on anatomy.

I'll be happiest when one has both.

Oh, and by the way, it would have been a bad idea for Obama to put Clinton on his ticket.

Clinton and Obama had campaigned against one another so vigorously that it would be highly questionable for an aspiring Commander-in-Chief to have her as his second-hand woman.

I have a strong belief that she will always, however, have his ear.

Isn't it also questionable that McCain pays women more in his campaign (were it true)?

Wouldn't that be offensive to notions of gender equality?

Jenny, this is a blog for thoughtful people, not people who spew memes like "Sarah Palin abused her power." That's an outright lie, so what does that make you?

And McCain would be damned no matter what he did - pay women more, pay women less, pay women the same, you'd find something to mindlessly criticize because you've decided that he's wrong no matter what.

Please - when a notion of a thought does decide to pass through your brain and you don't kill it - come back when you have something grown up to say.

But the investigation into her conduct stated that she abused her power.

How is it an outright lie to say that?

I don't think Palin has the competence to head up a Government. How is telling me that I'm immature supposed to refute that?

Jenny,

Did you miss this?

“The Bridge to Nowhere - which she championed”

She “championed” so much she killed it. Got it, makes sense to me.

“She does not coherently answer questions and is an unstable political figure. She is unable to answer simple questions.”

Versus the gaffetastic Joe Biden. Yea, there’s a stable political figure.

“Her politics are divisive and offensive.”
Yup, taking down fellow Republicans and standing up to Big Oil certainly is offensive.

“I'm going to wait it out - and give my vote to a woman who deserves it.”

You mean a Democrat woman.

Don’t try to kid us Jenny, you spew the liberal talking points, attack Palin with nonsense and then try to come off as thinking independently? Not buying your rhetoric.

Actually - instead of 'spewing memes', I've done careful research on both websites. I am not at heart a Democrat.

However,

(1) If you have ever seen (at least) the photo of Gov Palin with the "Bridge to Nowhere" shirt - she did champion it until it was VERY clear it was not going to survive, at which point she declared her opposition to it;

(2) The conclusion in the report was perfectly coherent that: She DID abuse her power BUT there was nothing unlawful or technically improper about it that means she can get in trouble with the law.

Same as if you cheat on one co-worker with another - it's a bad thing to do at work, but it probably won't get you fired.

(3) Biden's comment about the "world testing Obama" has been called a gaffe by Democrats AND Republicans. I don't think it was. To be honest, in the middle of an economic meltdown and when a lot of the Middle East still very much despises America, ANY President would be tested. I am very confident that McCain would be tested were he to take office.

(4) Margaret Thatcher. By far, not 'liberal'. I'd support her ticket - were she on one. She's a woman who knew what to do.

(5) 'Divisive and Offensive'. As it gets closer to Obama securing the Presidency, Palin and McCain have gotten more and more vicious. The Ayers thing - which noone cares about and got dramatically overblown from some associations on an education board a number of years ago - and all the subsequent "pallin' around with terrorists' comments are going to divide the country no matter the outcome.

If Obama gets in - half the country will think he's an evil terrorist, and the country will become even tenser than it has been.

If McCain gets in - half the country will be angry that those kind of smears were what stood in the way of a Presidency.

(6) Finally, I supported McCain in 2000. He's changed. McCain could do something right - he could denounce the tactics that McCain/Palin have been using to get power, shed his advisers and his VP pick and say "Look, I'm sorry. I've gone too far." I would be very happy for the old McCain to be back and he actually make positive changes to the world.

Before you mention it - correction to earlier post: where I said I'd done 'research on both websites', I meant I had done 'research on both Republican and Democrat websites (in addition to independent, non-partisan fact-checkers)'.

(1) Yes, obviously Palin “championed” the bridge by wearing a shirt.

(2) The conclusion in the report was perfectly coherent to everyone but you.

(3) Biden's comment about the "world testing Obama" has been called a gaffe by Democrats AND Republicans because it was. Obama would be tested because he’s is a light weight.

(4) Margaret Thatcher. By far, not 'liberal'. I'd support her ticket…

Ah yes, another fake conservative who supports Obama.

(5) 'Divisive and Offensive'. As it gets closer to Obama securing the Presidency, Palin and McCain have gotten more and more vicious. The Ayers thing - which noone cares about and got dramatically overblown…

Amazing how it’s vicious and divisive it is to bring up the truth. And incredible how one man, one supposed brilliant man keeps making friends with such controversial people. The odds of such coincidences are staggering.

(6) Finally, I supported McCain in 2000. He's changed. McCain could do something right - he could denounce the tactics that McCain/Palin have been using to get power, shed his advisers and his VP pick and say "Look, I'm sorry. I've gone too far." I would be very happy for the old McCain to be back and he actually make positive changes to the world.

Exactly what power has McCain/Palin gotten?

The tactics you speak of are simply telling the truth and it should have been broader ranging and done a lot earlier.

As far as your childish scenario, you’ve got to be kidding me. They are neck in neck with Obama now but I guess campaign suicide is what you want. Dream on.

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