A disgusting Palin smear

It's simply evil.

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[Tim Chesterton]

Agreed.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Word needs to get out.

These people want the attention. And every time one of these things makes it to the net, with every giggle from the "Daily Show" crowd, that so called "Bradley Effect" increases by a quarter of a point.

I hope the polls put The Chosen One ahead by thirty points or more, and on Election Day he loses by a Reagan/Mondale sized landslide. What long faces we'd see then. What an explosion in the therapy business. The crying. The word "Diebold" muttered dozens of times a week.

My evil black heart would be so delighted by the suffering of others. Pure schadenfreude. I'd be like Cartman licking Scott Tenorman's tears off his face. This is exactly the kind of "joke" that'll make it happen...I hope they pump out twenty more just like it. Just as "clever."

[KM]

I am unashamedly an Obama supporter and think that that "joke" is disgusting. It's disrespectful to Palin and also to Biden who has been a very pro-women's issues Senator. Please don't think Obama supporters all think like this. They most certainly do not.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Don't worry. On your side of the fence, EVERYTHING is disconnected by default. If this was a "joke" advantageous to McCain/Palin or made at the expense of Obama/Biden, McCain himself would have to forcibly denounce it and even then that would convince very few.

Not sure who made that double-standard rule, but it works out for your side very well. We can expect to see several more attacks like this, multiple times, in what's left of this week alone. And nobody taking a fall for it anywhere, or even getting embarrassed.

[mike bomb]

i don't know why your all so sensitive - that was very funny. besides, palin is a self-proclaimed pit-bull. she can take it.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

I can't speak for everyone.

I know I'm sensitive because if that was a joke about Hillary Clinton's cootchie, or Michelle Obama's, it would have been taken as a "Rovian plot" that goes all the way up to the top. And we would have been told about it that way. On the six o'clock news that day. Six on the dot.

Bad taste, on the conservative side of the fence, is commonly thought to be connected to those in power. On the liberal side everything works different. Statements like "don't think Obama supporters all think like this" just set me off. It's not the content of that message quite so much, it's the urgency of getting it out.

The idea that voting for Obama makes you a good person, is ALL the value that ticket has for ANYONE. Here's a link to a story about a "focus group" full of "independents" who get it -- Obama would make a lousy President in all the ways that matter. They're voting for him anyway. Yeah, they're voting for the inferior candidate, they're so anxious to be Good PeopleTM.

So I guess a level playing field would do the Chosen One a hell of a lot of damage, wouldn't it? Because if this kind of garbage was fastened to his top campaign advisers as easily and as casually as "Obama's an arab, ain't he?" is stuck onto McCain...that would make the people at the top of his organization, Bad People. Or call their goodness into serious question. And that's the only value they have to anyone, isn't it. The Obama/Biden ticket would be just about as much use, as the old dog that can't hunt anymore, can't fetch your slippers, and is only good for warming your feet in the wintertime, by the fire, when you're reading a book.

So pardon me for not buying into it. I think the *average* Obama supporter is a hideous, disgusting human being. Not all of 'em...but the average. They have something to atone for. Skeletons in the closet. They want to "be a part of this thing" so they can put on a show of being these Good PeopleTM.

And if they really, seriously, in their heart-of-hearts thought of themselves that way, there would be no urgency in getting the word out. They'd be supporting a decent, qualified candidate for President. Nor would they be putting out toxic sludge like this, to try to bring victory to whoever they were supporting.

Obama should be called upon to repudiate this, and assure us he really had nothing to do with it. And then he should be disbelieved, and called upon to do it again and again and again. As I wrote before -- if this was Pro-McCain humor, that is *exactly* what would already be happening.

[Tim Chesterton]

I think the *average* Obama supporter is a hideous, disgusting human being.

Statements like this are one of the reasons why I don't understand American politics. I'm not saying they're absent in the politics of other countries, but you folks south of the 49th seem to specialise in this sort of nastiness at election time.

Why is it so hard for us as human beings to say 'I disagree with you' without also saying 'You're evil'. And I know, I know, one of you is going to come back at me and say 'the other side (or The Other Side) said it first'. Whoever said it first, it doesn't matter to me. The Good Book says 'a soft answer turns away wrath'. Jesus said 'Bless those who persecute you; bless and do not curse'.

Morgan, as I understand it, over 50% of your nation is supporting Senator Obama. Do you really believe that over 50% of your fellow Americans are 'hideous, disgusting human beings'? I find that attitude simply unbelievable; how do you live in such a polarised society? I mean, we've just come through a Canadian federal election, an election in which I voted Liberal, but which was won last night by Stephen Harper's Conservatives. But I would never dream of calling Mr. Harper or his supporters 'hideous, disgusting human beings' (I actually think that Mr. Harper is quite an honourable human being, although I disagree with some of his policies). Nor have I, as a centre-left voter in predominantly right-wing Alberta, ever experienced that sort of attitude from my conservative friends and neighbours. Vigorous debate, yes, but that sort of nasty character attack? Never.

So I ask again, Morgan: do you really, honestly believe that over 50% of your fellow Americans are 'hideous, disgusting human beings'?

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Tim, if they *know* Obama is going to make an inferior President and they're voting for him anyway, they are quite vile.

I've spent a lifetime working in technology. Over half that time I've been directly responsible for fixing problems, keeping production systems running, systems that cause real damage and cost real dollars if they go down without a backup.

And trust me when I say this -- over half the time, the cause of an outage was human error. Which means, someone *knew* they were doing something that was wrong, but if they admitted they didn't know what they were doing, they might lose their "geek cred."

It's become a four-year ritual down here to chant the meaningless words "This Is The Most Important Election Of Our Lifetimes." However, this time it might very well be true. So these are people who know they're voting for the less qualified candidate, beyond any doubt, and are voting for him anyway.

I'm fed up with being expected to compromise with them, when they don't reciprocate.

I'm fed up with being expected to believe they know what they're talking about, when they haven't got a clue.

I'm just...generally...fed up. And they didn't just throw the first punch. They get to punch away, with wild abandon (see the graphic that is immediately under discussion here), without ever taking responsibility for it because each one of 'em is disconnected from the next one. So the next childish taunt is right around the corner, guaranteed. Meanwhile, Sarah Palin points out things about Obama that are *TRUE*, and gets a big ol' ration of poop over it.

I'm fed...UP.

[Rick]

Tim,

I'm attempting to count to 100 before responding, attempting to moderate this reply before posting it.

You're a big part of the problem pal... and you know I love ya... honest.

You're a regular reader on this site and so you're exposed to the scheming that goes on in the media, the double-standards, the propping up of this empty suit we call Barack Hussein (hell yes I said Hussein, it's his freakin' name) Obama by the press and you attempt to paint the right as being particularly nasty and yet you are largely silent with your co-ideologues on the left and the absolute hatred they put on display daily.

Why is that? What can be the reason? In what way is your reluctance to agree with say... oh... 51% of what's posted on this blog (and the much smarter people I link to) contributing to the problem?

This is a core part of the problem.

The religious left has played the moral equivalence card time and again when there is no moral equivalence and you've just done so here again.

Now let me go on record and state that I don't see you as the typical religious leftist except for this particular post... and here you've lived up to the moniker in a big way.

You've in essence dumbed down actual nastiness and vileness on the left by attempting to paint Morgan's words as nasty and vile.

It's truly maddening.

[Mommynator]

I just had to reprimand one of my nieces because on her Facebook, she stated that she would cry if Obama didn't win.

I told her she should try to vote with her head and not her heart because there are too many important issues at stake to be that stupid, and nothing in Obama's record showed that he could or would do squat about anything, and that voting "present" was not taking a strong stand for people.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

I'd like to reiterate what Rick said about you not being the typical ne'er-do-well miserable no-account good-fer-not left-wing egg-suckin' dog.

To me, you represent the good-hearted but somewhat misguided. People like you seem to be coping with life with a big bunch of truisms goin' whistling right over your heads. And it impresses me that the list of truisms that escape your notice, is always the same list...doesn't vary by much at all.

1. A certain ideology does not prove a toxic streak of deep dark human ugliness buried within the psyche...but no other ideology serviceably disproves such a thing either.

2. People are built for efficiency, and will tend to find a way to "cut corners" in everything they do -- from making a living, to cleaning the kitchen, to proving to others what "decent" people they are.

3. It's part of a flaw endemic to the human design, that we each labor for the purpose of best serving our own self-interests, while forgetting the other fellow is going to want to labor for the purpose of best serving his own self-interest.

4. Civilization works best when it's built around helping people to remember this about their neighbors, rather than helping them to forget it. That's why "Star Trek" is fiction and will never be anything more than that, and all socialist paradises have consistently failed.

5. All questions that confront us, especially with regard to public policy, do not necessarily have a "compromise" or "middle of the road" or "gray" area. Trying a little bit of socialism is no different than being a little bit pregnant. You're in or you're out.

6. When people get duped by something, and begin to suspect they've been duped, a lot of us have the tendency to work like the dickens to get others duped in the same way rather than do the sensible thing, which is to "un-dupify" ourselves.

7. When people get caught in the loop described in #6, they have been known to get indescribably nasty, and then not take any responsibility for having gotten indescribably nasty. And THAT is the real reason why we see the graphic under discussion here. The Obama campaign has a distinct tendency to motivate people to get others duped the way they themselves have been duped; to show off for each other; to behave in describably nasty ways; and to blame their opponents for their own nasty behavior.

Not all Obama supporters are like this. But many are. It's a big problem, big enough that His Messiahness really should do something to directly address it...but he won't, because it's not realistic to expect him to cut his own throat.