Obama pastor Jeremiah Wright: "God Damn America" (UPDATED)

This ought to be more widely reported:

    “The government gives them the drugs, builds bigger prisons, passes a three-strike law and then wants us to sing ‘God Bless America.’ No, no, no, God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people,” he said in a 2003 sermon. “God damn America for treating our citizens as less than human. God damn America for as long as she acts like she is God and she is supreme.”

    In addition to damning America, he told his congregation on the Sunday after Sept. 11, 2001 that the United States had brought on al Qaeda’s attacks because of its own terrorism.

    “We bombed Hiroshima, we bombed Nagasaki, and we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon, and we never batted an eye,” Rev. Wright said in a sermon on Sept. 16, 2001.

    “We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because the stuff we have done overseas is now brought right back to our own front yards. America’s chickens are coming home to roost,” he told his congregation.

ABC News has video... and wait through to the end when you hear some of Wright's worshipers defend the man.  Can we call the influential pastor a radical's radical?

Yes. We. Can.

UPDATE:  Think for a minute about a guy, running for President, who consistently, willfully, repeatedly and apparently faithfully, exposes his young daughters to this kind of crap week in and week out... and then think that some deem him to be a man of sound mind and good judgment?  Bullsh*t:

Comments

[dale]

A radical's radical, OH MY GOODNESS. Sounds like every drone conservative. "He's so radical, oh my, what a radical guy."
He sounds stupid to me but I guess since his stupidity goes agiasnt yours that means he is radical. Well thought out good fellow. I guess your thoughts and beliefs set the benchmark from which we all should be measured. If only everyone agreed with you then we would have no problems whatsoever.

[salvage]

>God damn America, that’s in the Bible for killing innocent people

Weird, the Bible is full of his god killing innocent people... guess it's okay when he does it?

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Yup, Rick's one sick ticket compared to this pastor, that much is fer SURE.

That is, when you two yokels pretend Rick said a bunch of stuff he didn't really say.

And that Pastor Wright did not say stuff, he in fact did. Yeah, I know. Reality. Not for the timid.

[Mommynator]

You might want to watch those knees, boy. Your lower legs one day will fly off with all that jerking.

Can you at least try to make a coherent argument why it's okay for a pastor to condemn the country wherein he was able to be educated and has the liberty to have a church? Is it possible for you to make us understand why his whacky conspiracy theories, making the bad white guys at fault for the irresponsibility of black people are true and valid?

If not, then maybe you ought to keep your mouth shut until you have something sane and logical to say.

[Pearl]

Extremists will always attempt to make a "whole lotta something" out of absolutely nothing. Rev. Jeremiah Wright has the right to say whatsoever he chooses to say. His words and sermons are based on his personal experiences and his parishioners' experiences. His approach is somewhat unlike Martin Luther King's delivery but the same message is there. Racism, classism, seperatism, extremism, sexism, and all of the other "isms" must be blotted out in this society if it is going to survive in the long run. Learn more about his background and you'll get a full understanding of where he's coming from, as it relates to his outlook/perspective. I've attended churches with some views that I don't particularly agree with but when I've weighed the positives versus the negatives I've found myself deciding to stay for the greater message or overall benefits. Biblically speaking, if a pastor is not shaking things up and speaking about things that directly influence and effect the lives of his parishioners, he/she isn't worth the salt in the earth. Remember Jesus was labeled a so-called "radical" simply because he spoke for the poor and disenfranchised among us. The Bible says "Be angry but do not sin." Rev. Wright is very high-spirited but that is because he loves people and wants the best for black people. His messages challenge us to rise above our circumstances and situations. Specifically, he insists that blacks aspire to be better and address those issues which either they have brought upon themselves or have inherited from being born into a poor, uneducated black family. Let's face it. There are strikes against them from the very start. He is not talking to those who are "well" and have figured out how to achieve success and overcome their circumstances. Afterall, as Jesus said and I'm paraphrasing.....they don't need a physician. I've heard many sermons by this man and most of them are fueled with great energy with an uplifting message. If not, the white parishioners would have left the congregation by now. Those who have leaked this and other short inserts from his sermons are trying to fuel racism and hatred, which is always "their" means to an end. Think about this: How many Catholics decide to use birth control even though their highest official, that being the pope, does not support the use of birth control? How many "Christians" commit fornication though the church and the Bible speaks, loudly, against it? My point being this, after hearing what a pastor/reverend/priest says it falls in our laps, as parishioners, to make the final decisions. By the way, to the person who made a reference to Barack's children listening to Rev. Wright's messages obviously hasn't attended church in a very long time. Children have what's called children's church or Sunday school during the "message." They are removed and taken to the basement or another area in the church where they read and are read stories about the life of Christ, his mission, and the Bible, in general.

By the way, the reverend did not condemn America. I believe he was saying God damns America b/c of our many "accepted" practices and utter irreverance to his word, that being the Bible. For example, Rev. Wright has spoken against abortion, yet Barack is pro-choice. The reverend has said many times that he loves America but he doesn't like the things it does in the name of love of mankind, prosperity, and peace. In reference to his comments regarding Hiroshima, etc., is he really not telling the truth. As Americans, we think everything we do is right and justified. Tell that to the families around the world who have lost loved ones b/c of our "need to protect our interests." I and Rev. Wright grieve for the loss of lives on 9/11 however we also grieve for the lives lost during this war, American and foreign. Aferall, we are all human. I'm realistic so I fully understand that governments do things for the betterment of their nation but let's not be naive and pretend like everything our government or any government does, for that matter, is righteous and in the best interests of humanity, overall. History does not reflect this view, whatsoever.

[Rick]

Pearl,

There's lots to respond to. First, no one hear is questioning Pastor Wright's constitutional right to be delusional. No one. So throw away that line of defense. It's ludicrous.

If you're saying that Wright's message is the same as Martin Luther King's message, then I'm going to suggest, less than gently, that you're smoking crack. And you should stop. It's killing your brain cells. Clearly.

What is Pastor Wright's greater message you're willing to hang around and hear rather than leave because of his idiocy? I'm afraid his greater message is clear. Blacks are victims. America is evil. White people suck. That's your greater message. It's obvious. Picture yourself hearing a white pastor doing what Wright is doing and targeting blacks. Picture what the media would be doing. Educate yourself Pearl. You're coming across as an idiot. A utopianist, someone naive and unable to separate the ideal from the real. You should grow the hell up. No lie.

You say Wright loves people? Yea... black people. And only certain black people. Because, in his own words, Condi, Colin, and other blacks who don't think like he does are people he despises and in fact is sick of which makes think of how sick I am of people like you who accept and defend this kind of lunacy. If you're not smoking crack, you're certainly drinking tainted kool-aid and you should stop. It's killing your brain cells. Clearly.

Oh... and that was me talking about Barak's irresponsibility in taking his children to this kind of hate-filled church. You can't defend it and when you try, you become a bigger fool. Wright is a hate-monger, a jew-hater, a black separatist, and Obama has made the decision to include him as a key advisor on his campaign. What does that say about Obama? What does that say about his judgment?

It says he's not the Savior the gullible, the ignorant and the uninformed have made him out to be.

Period.

And your final comments, where you join in the impugning of America, confirms for me what you represent. Someone willing to overlook the many faults of Reverend Wright while singing his praises and someone willing to cast aspersions on America despite her record of uplifting and upholding freedom across the globe. America's imperfections are front and center for you, this while overlooking Wright's more grievous imperfections. What a load of sh*t.

You are espousing idiocy Pearl. You and the many who think like you. You've lost your ability to think critically and instead have decided that emoting is the highest virtue.

You and those who think like you are ignorant... and you're doing your level best to ensure that ignorance is passed on.

What utter bullsh*t.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Well said, Rick.

Hope she's making money by doing her part. There's a huge campaign going on today to dutifully dispense these instructions out to everyone that what Pastor Wright said don't mean nuthin'. I mean...an enormous campaign.

If I was part of it, and didn't make a nickel off of it, I would feel like just the biggest fool. So Pearl, do go after that paycheck you're supposed to get from telling us we didn't hear what we did, in fact, hear. Like I said. Reality. Not for the timid.

[tim]

Well Rick, glad I didn’t waste anytime banging my keyboard during my lunch hour just to have you beat me to it with a more eloquent retort. Anyways…

Yes, let us do as Dale suggest and “Learn more about his background” so we can get “a full understanding of where he's coming from, as it relates to his outlook/perspective.”

The good Reverend has this also to say, “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.”

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/14/obamas-spiritual-adviser-questioned-us-role-in-spread-of-hiv-sept-11-attacks/

Yup, just one misunderstood Brother.

And Dale, it seems nobody “leaked” anything “DVD copies of his sermons (are) available for purchase”. Oops.

[Greg Jones]

Blacks 4 Barack (A Multi-Racial Org.)
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Out of desperation, the Clinton campaign has stooped to extreme lows by having surrogate Geraldine Ferraro in the media making racist statements against Barack Obama combined with prompting the media to attempt to chastise Obama for rhetoric spewd by not him....but by his preacher! Realistically speaking, it is a fact that even if Hillary wins Pennsylvania there is absolutely no way she can get enough delegate votes to defeat Obama. And her BIG ploy now is to have a 're-do' in Michigan and Florida, despite the fact that this would be a changing of the rules in the middle of the game which should not be allowed. (rules that Howard Dean of the DNC, Harold Ickes, a chief Hillary advisor and Donna Brazil a regular on CNN who never exposes that she helped set the rules in August of 2007 as a member of the DNC Laws and ByLaws Committee) If allowed to have the rules changed for her benefit, Hillary then hopes that, after stealing the nomination, she will offer Obama the V.P. slot....figuring that if he excepts, Obama supporters will vote for her....while if he does not....she would at least look like she offered the slot. THIS IS UNEXCEPTABLE !

Hillary Clinton's (and the DNC's)coniving tactics will end up ruining the Democratic Party. Now is the time to let Howard Dean, Donna Brazil, Harold Ickes and the entire DNC know that if Hillary wins through ANY methods deemed trickery (which is the only way she can win) WE....THE PEOPLE WILL NOT SUPPORT HER IN THE GENERAL ELECTION !

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[tim]

“Blacks 4 Barack (A Multi-Racial Org.)”

I’m glad that’s clarified. I would think “Multi Racial Blacks for Barack” would be more appropriate, but what do I know.

“the Clinton campaign has stooped to extreme lows by having surrogate Geraldine Ferraro in the media making racist statements against Barack Obama”

What exactly was racist about Ferraro’s comments? Seriously anyone, help a Cracker out here. For the record, I don’t necessarily agree with her but I hardly think her comments were in anyway racist. But there ya’ go, the same people who give Reverend Kill Whitey a pass, pull the race card on some silly remark.

BTW, anyone want to join my new organization, “Whites against Barak” or better yet, “Whites for McCain”?

[Pearl]

Since you haven't attended any of his sermons you wouldn't know what most of his sermons entail. You are the ones who are delusional and misled. You have absolutely no clue what others who are different from you deal with, on a daily basis, in this country. It is ludicruous for you to even pretend or attempt to appear that you do. You didn't know Martin Luther King, Jr. so I'm certain that you don't know everything that he said, either. You only not that which you choose to know. Read and expand your mind. I won't even respond to the silly reference about crack. People like you are divisive and ignorant.

Dear Ms. Pearl:

How you can listen to ANY sermon by Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., who was extremely educated and intelligent and thoughtful and compare them to that total ignoramus in Chicago - well, like Rick said, you must be smoking the crack.

Please stop. It's embarassing to you and to every other intelligent, hard working, educated black person out there who doesn't buy the racist propaganda.

[brenda]

Its fascinating how the American people are so easily distracted from issues that really matter. Opposed to getting titillated by who Obama and McCain's pastor is and what they think, you may want to take time to consider what if any of this has to do with your paying $4.00 a gallon for gasoline; 63,000 jobs lost in the month of February; the war in Iraq which is siphoning off $13 billion a month; 47 million Americans without healthcare; the Gulf coast still resembling a war zone two years post-Katrina; a gallon of milk costing almost $5.00; the astronomical number of American homes in foreclosure; American banking systems threatening to go under with your money still in it; gang violence out of control in many parts of the country especially the Mid west; the number of children in this country living two to three times below the federal poverty level; education system shot to hell --and I could go on. Keep on focusing on the dumb stuff and this country will get the government you already have and deserve because you refuse to look through all the smoke and mirrors. Keep focused on the media and its titillation de jour and come November you will all be living in a tent and getting to work on a skateboard because you were too focused on somebody's pastor instead of the real issues. Stay drunk with distraction if you will. In the interim, I wish you well with the outcomes realized.

[Mommynator]

I see the kneejerk trolls are out in force to defend their man.

It's all Bush's fault - he is the evil in the world, not their own evil and laziness and stupidity.

Please try to pay attention: a person's spiritual advisor says a lot about the person because you cannot be with a spiritual advisor with whom you do not agree in essence.

We do not need bigots or stupid people or cowards in the office of the president of the United States. We need people who can think for themselves, who know what is right and wrong (including the RIGHT of going to war to defend ourselves and liberate others) and who can inspire people to do their best.

We do not need lazy ass people who look to the government for everything and then complain when everything costs so much because they are taxed to support the things they want the government to do, instead of being enterprising and creative and doing for themselves and helping their neighbors and communities to do the same.

Oh well. Some people will never learn and will stay in their misery and ignorance forever. That is truly a shame, because we were meant for joy.

[Kim]

Why is a balck man can say anything he wants about white folk, but if a white man said something about black it's racism? I am so tired of black people being racist against white! This is bulls**t! And yes, Obama, who is half balck and white, lets not forget the man's momma! Does she not matter? Oh wait... we are playing the race card, so I guess she doesn't. Then we can't balme every white person who doesn't vote for Obama for being racist! Obama went to this man's church, he stood there and absorbed his sermons. He must have agreed with what the man, is it ok to call the Rev a man, or is that being sexist? Anyway, he continued to attend services at this church, claims this Rev. showed him the way. So he must agree with him. When was hte last time Obama was pulled over for being black? Well, I think mechanic are sexist b/c they talk to me like I am stupid and know nothing about cars b/c I have tits. Maybe I should start a movement against men, yeah, for judging me for being a chic. Lets wake up, who cares about what color the canidates are, screw it. Get back to focusing on the issues! WHY is everything about race?

[me]

If a white man was saying the kinds of things about black this Rev. did it would a different story. How can Obama united America, all this kind of shit is doing is causing more trouble. Amen to whoever posted the comments about the issues. Gas prices, healthcare... This is what matters to me. Obama will not beat McCain. I think Florida and Michigan's votes should count. I also think the delegates and superdelegates are stupid. We the people, should have the final say. Not the powers that be. Why even ask us if you have the power to change things! Just another flaw in the Goverment, bet Barack Hussein Obama won't change that!

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Opposed to getting titillated by who Obama and McCain's pastor is and what they think, you may want to take time to consider what if any of this has to do with your paying $4.00 a gallon...

Oh jeez looweez, you must have been a delight when your mom caught you swiping a cookie. I'm sure that was pure entertainment.

[It don't matter]

You americans are such a bunch of sheep. You are so easily led along and just go with what the politicians tell you. If you people were to wake up and realize so many people in this world hate america for a reason maybe you could take a look at yourselves and figure out why. Who the hell died and made you the rulers of the world. If america stayed out of everyone elses business and didn't have to have troops in almost every country on earth they would not be a target of revenge. Think about it, if someone invaded your country would you just accept it or would you fight back? Well what do you think these people are doing? Bring your troops home to defend your country and let others sort out there problems. By the way all you suckers who think you are so free, take a closer look, everyday you give up more and more of your liberties in the name of safety. Grow some balls and stand up to this government bullshit and quit being such followers. News flash your government lies to you.

[xtnyoda]

It Don't Matter wrote:

[Bring your troops home to defend your country and let others sort out there problems.]

Sometimes...in my weakest moments...I almost think the same thing. Instead of the US spending so much of our tax money on "world" defense...we could bring our troops home and let the "world" spend the "world's" tax money on itself.

Then the mean old US could spend it's citizens tax money on ourselves. More social programs, more government health care, etc. We could give ourselves more than you can imagine.

I think, "Ah, then the world would love us, after we let the world swallow itself with it's venomous hatred, and reduce itself to a stone age existence. In the process the world could watch the wonderful US citizens live in abject luxury not caring about the putrid conditions in the rest of the world. Surly then the world would love us."

Weak moments indeed.

I'm not saying these thoughts are necessarily evil thoughts.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

Well, people like brenda and "don't matter" aren't really talking to anyone. A lot of people who live in other countries, see themselves as shareholders within an aristocratic layer, standing to gain something if their country's currency performs more strongly against the U.S. dollar. And so they spew their anti-American propaganda. They do it so they can be seen doing it.

Sad thing is, they aren't all living in other countries. Some of them live right here in America...and hate themselves for it.

Just remember, they aren't communicating. They're performing. That's what is sad about being a dedicated America-hater -- you have to worry about what everybody else is doing, and everybody else gets to butt in to what you're doing, which means most of the nonsense you spew out is just a lot of filler designed to please others. Thinking for yourself has become an American luxury, and although they won't admit it, this is a big part of the reason people "hate" America.

I'd just like to know why Rick's place is crawling with them all the time. It's almost like he left something out, and they came crawling in like ants. Hey Rick, do I buy these in bulk? They can't possibly cost too much, if you're paying for them.

[Morgan K Freeberg]

If you don't want to give up that secret, maybe you can go to the bait shack or pet store and pick up another, let's say, two pounds. I'll reimburse you. I'll send you a dollar and you can keep the change.

I find them not only titillating, but amusing as well.

Exactly, Kitty; like sea monkeys.

[Rick]

Morgan,

I'd like to think that it's my brilliant prose... but we both know that ain't it...

I'd like to think that liberals see my exposition of truth (or more likely my pointing to other's exposition of truth) to be a threat and so the liars and their lying cohorts need to defend their lies and they choose to do so here... but I'm thinking that has some holes in it...

The truth of the matter is that somehow, someway, this blog tends to show up in Google more often than not and Lord knows the leftist loons and moonbats are certainly Google adept...

So there you have it... but what I love about what I do here is that I have regulars like yourself, like the Mommynator, like tim, like XtnYoda, like Leslie, like my brother Mike and numerous others who speak up and counter the idiocy plainly and expertly...

In the end, my hope is that perhaps one or two of those who've bought into the idiocy will read some of our words and will wake up from their stupor... yes, I know, it's quite an ambition, but it's an honest one nevertheless...

[Mommynator]

Rick, Morgan, et al - it just hit me this morning while perusing Pajamas Media what these trolls are all about.

They keep saying that we're distracted and deflecting discussion from the "real" issues like gas prices and the war in Iraq.

Well, I say that they're just projecting. I hope I can explain it clearly.

When good things happen in Iraq, we don't hear about it. When good things happen in the economy, we don't hear about it.

But say one word about the racist, leukophobic (fear of white) pastor and his disciple, and all of a sudden, Iraq and the economy come to the forefront with a vengeance. You see the game? The pattern?

THEY are trying to distract US with their desire to keep the mix confused, bothered and bewildered.

Meanwhile, they don't get it. We're laughing at them because they show themselves to be stupid, confused and the worst sorts of bigots and racists in the world.

Think about it.

[It don't matter]

Just so you know Morgan Freeberg, I do not live in america but am a canadian who relies on the exact opposite of your theory of currency devaluation. When the US dollar falls against our currency it hurts our economy because we rely heavily on exports so I would much rather see a strong US dollar. I do not hate america I spend numerous days every year there and must say I like the place for the most part. The problem is that the general public is being slowly stripped of their rights in the name of security from an invisible enemy. My suggestion is to do some research into what really goes on in government and don't just take them for their word. Did you not see the latest report from all those documents seized in Iraq that found no link between Saddam and al-quaeda. So no link between Iraq and al-quaeda and no weapons of mass destruction the only 2 reasons cited for going to war and the american public just sits back and does nothing when these lies come out. Take a look at american foreign policy when it comes to the sad state of many foreign countries. It is not the american people to blame it is a select few individuals who are very, very rich and getting richer by the day. Who do you think is gaining from this war in Iraq? it ain't the Iraqi people or the american people, it is a select few very wealthy individuals. Ask yourself where all this defence contract money is going. I know it sounds good to you and the president is on your side lookin out for you makin you feel all warm and fuzzy inside but wake up people before it's too late.