Liberal Fascism...
... is real and although you topically intelligent people would rightly think of Jonah Goldberg's best seller when seeing the title of this post, I'm in actuality looking at this piece as fodder for the prosecution:
PRESS RELEASE
For Immediate Release
March 1, 2008
Abortion Debate Cancelled by York University Student UnionThe York University Student Centre shut down an event entitled “Abortion Debate: A Woman’s Right or a Moral Wrong?” at York University only a couple of hours before it was scheduled to take place late Thursday afternoon.Margaret Fung, President of Students for Bioethical Awareness (SBA), one of the hosting clubs, describes what happened: “I was told in a meeting by members of the York Federation of Students that debating abortion is comparable to debating whether a man should be allowed to beat his wife. They said that there is freedom of speech to a limit, and that abortion is not an issue to debate. They demanded that the event not take place and shut us down.”
Present at this meeting in addition to Fung were Jeremy Salter, Executive Director of the York Federation of Students (YFS), Fuad Abdi, VP Operations of the YFS and also the Secretary of the Executive Committee of the Student Centre, and Amir Mohareb, President of the York Debating Society.
SBA, an official York University Student Club, worked with the York Debating Society to organize the debate. The debaters were Michael Payton from Freethinkers, Skeptics and Atheists at York for the pro-choice side and Jose Ruba from the Canadian Centre for Bio-Ethical Awareness for the pro-life side. It was to be an organized debate moderated by the York Debating Society. Both sides were ready and willing to debate, but after it was demanded the event be shut down, dozens of students planning on attending the event were turned away at the door.
Commenting on her feelings about what took place, Fung continues, “The Student Centre has made sure that anyone with different views than theirs can’t express themselves, even if both points of view are represented. They don’t seem to understand that we live in a free, democratic society. A university is supposed to be a marketplace of ideas not a propaganda machine for political extremists.”
This action at York University comes in the wake of statements by the Canadian Federation of Students (of which the YFS is a part) comparing pro-life student groups to the KKK, and announcing their intention to support student unions who ban pro-life student clubs. “Salter also compared pro-lifers to the KKK,” concludes Fung, “And such comparisons are incredibly ignorant and, quite frankly, hurtful”.
For more information, please contact:
Margaret Fung, Co-President, Students for Bioethical Awareness: (416)650-8870, mfung08@schulich.yorku.ca
Maria Smolkova, Co-President, Students for Bioethical Awareness: (647)654-6023, marienka@yorku.ca
It's amazing really to think there are folks out there believing passionately that we who find the wanton slaughter of innocents in the womb for purely selfish reasons to be abhorrent are the moral equivalent of white sheet wearing racists who hung blacks from trees.
Seriously amazing. And they'll be the first to speak of how tolerant they are. And how love solves all problems.
Ladies and gentlemen, I give you The Fascist Left.
H/T to Kathy.
MORE: Along these lines, check out Michelle and what she's covering here.











Rick,
I've heard this sentiment expressed many times before and perhaps, if I take it only half-assed seriously, I could eventually twist it around to the point where it makes some kind of sense. But I've never been able to figure it out. Tom Leykis and Neal Boortz, who aren't exactly within spitting distance of each other on any political spectrum, have both gone on record with "rules" that abortion "will not be discussed on this program" because "it's a dead issue."
This poses an obvious threat to the value of such programming, or anything in talk radio or for that matter in any format supposedly conducive to open discussions of controversial issues. What's the point if you're only going to confront controversial issues -- here & there? To a certain extent?
Unlike the "are we stewards of the environment" issue, this one does have a solid and sensible connection to the question of whether there is or is not a God. If there is a God, He must have put the baby in the momma's tummy, and there's no way He could be anything but offended if some bugger comes along and rips it out. That part does make sense to me. What doesn't make sense, however, is once again the stuff that arises as a consequence when I take the pro-abortion side seriously...
There is no God. Therefore, it doesn't hurt anything to go ahead and suck the rascal out. It's just a growth. If you proceed from the premise that God never existed, that's an inescapable conclusion -- but -- if I disagree, and I'm so stupid to think there's a God when there isn't one, and the majority is with me, we can go ahead and ban abortions right? In fact, with no God around to get offended, we can do ANYTHING can't we?
Pro-abortion people don't act like this. Not at all. They act like we have to legislate exactly the right codes, and counter-codes (codes against codes), or else there is indeed some deity up there that is going to get blisteringly offended with us.
I mean, that's just the way they behave. "It's her CHOICE! It's her RIGHT!" Maybe, but if I take that right away just because I feel like it, that's more-or-less okay. It has to be. In a godless cosmos, anything goes.
Posted by: Morgan K Freeberg | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 02:53 PM
Man, so even debating something now is out of the question. Sounds like Canada is going downhill fast.
“Present at this meeting in addition to Fung were… Fuad Abdi, VP Operations of the YFS…and Amir Mohareb, President of the York Debating Society.”
Fuad Abdi & Amir Mohareb...hmmm…
BTW, not ALL atheists are pro abortion.
Posted by: tim | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 03:16 PM
tim,
Understood.
But we do have a rather crisp and unblurred line drawn that way, since it's obviously difficult to support abortion if you believe. This would involve a very silly diety that runs around getting women pregnant just for kicks, and if mortal man comes along and sucks the product into a jar...well hey, it's all good.
Posted by: Morgan K Freeberg | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 03:37 PM
Morgan,
T’was just throwing it out there.
Here’s a good read I just found at NRO:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzM2YTc2NDc1ODMyNTM5MTBhZjcyOTBlNmRkMTgwY2Y=
Dear Senator Obama:
“As an immigrant from Kenya, your father found new hope in America’s noble principles and vast opportunities. The same promise brought my parents here from Egypt when I was still too young to thank them. Now you have inspired my generation with your vision of a country united around the same ideals of liberty and justice, “filled with hope and possibility for all Americans.”
But do you mean it?
As a legislator, you have opposed every effort to protect unborn human life. Shockingly, you even opposed a bill to protect the lives of babies who, having survived an attempted abortion, are born alive. Despite your party’s broad support for legal abortion and its public funding, most Democrats (including Senator Clinton) did not oppose the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. You, however, opposed it.”
It continues:
“You have asked me to vote for you. In turn, may I ask you three simple questions? They are straightforward questions of fact about abortion. They are at the heart of the debate. In fairness, I believe that you owe the people you would lead a good-faith answer to each:
1. The heart whose beating is stilled in every abortion — is it a human heart?
2. The tiny limbs torn by the abortionist’s scalpel — are they human limbs?
3. The blood that flows from the fetus’s veins — is it human blood?
If the stopped heart is a human heart, if the torn limbs are human limbs, if the spilled blood is human blood, can there be any denying that what is killed in an abortion is a human being? In your vision for America, the license to kill that human being is a right. You have worked to protect that “right” at every turn. But can there be a right to deny some human beings life or the equal protection of the law?”
Posted by: tim | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 04:10 PM
Wait a minute. Am I getting this right?
People who are FOR the baby living are compared to the KKK who wanted to kill blacks, Jews, Catholics and people of mixed races?
Huh?
That makes absolutely NO sense at all. Or am I missing something?
Posted by: | Tuesday, March 04, 2008 at 04:16 PM