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Tuesday, March 04, 2008

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Rick,

I've heard this sentiment expressed many times before and perhaps, if I take it only half-assed seriously, I could eventually twist it around to the point where it makes some kind of sense. But I've never been able to figure it out. Tom Leykis and Neal Boortz, who aren't exactly within spitting distance of each other on any political spectrum, have both gone on record with "rules" that abortion "will not be discussed on this program" because "it's a dead issue."

This poses an obvious threat to the value of such programming, or anything in talk radio or for that matter in any format supposedly conducive to open discussions of controversial issues. What's the point if you're only going to confront controversial issues -- here & there? To a certain extent?

Unlike the "are we stewards of the environment" issue, this one does have a solid and sensible connection to the question of whether there is or is not a God. If there is a God, He must have put the baby in the momma's tummy, and there's no way He could be anything but offended if some bugger comes along and rips it out. That part does make sense to me. What doesn't make sense, however, is once again the stuff that arises as a consequence when I take the pro-abortion side seriously...

There is no God. Therefore, it doesn't hurt anything to go ahead and suck the rascal out. It's just a growth. If you proceed from the premise that God never existed, that's an inescapable conclusion -- but -- if I disagree, and I'm so stupid to think there's a God when there isn't one, and the majority is with me, we can go ahead and ban abortions right? In fact, with no God around to get offended, we can do ANYTHING can't we?

Pro-abortion people don't act like this. Not at all. They act like we have to legislate exactly the right codes, and counter-codes (codes against codes), or else there is indeed some deity up there that is going to get blisteringly offended with us.

I mean, that's just the way they behave. "It's her CHOICE! It's her RIGHT!" Maybe, but if I take that right away just because I feel like it, that's more-or-less okay. It has to be. In a godless cosmos, anything goes.

Man, so even debating something now is out of the question. Sounds like Canada is going downhill fast.

“Present at this meeting in addition to Fung were… Fuad Abdi, VP Operations of the YFS…and Amir Mohareb, President of the York Debating Society.”

Fuad Abdi & Amir Mohareb...hmmm…

BTW, not ALL atheists are pro abortion.

tim,

Understood.

But we do have a rather crisp and unblurred line drawn that way, since it's obviously difficult to support abortion if you believe. This would involve a very silly diety that runs around getting women pregnant just for kicks, and if mortal man comes along and sucks the product into a jar...well hey, it's all good.

Morgan,

T’was just throwing it out there.

Here’s a good read I just found at NRO:
http://article.nationalreview.com/?q=YzM2YTc2NDc1ODMyNTM5MTBhZjcyOTBlNmRkMTgwY2Y=

Dear Senator Obama:

“As an immigrant from Kenya, your father found new hope in America’s noble principles and vast opportunities. The same promise brought my parents here from Egypt when I was still too young to thank them. Now you have inspired my generation with your vision of a country united around the same ideals of liberty and justice, “filled with hope and possibility for all Americans.”

But do you mean it?

As a legislator, you have opposed every effort to protect unborn human life. Shockingly, you even opposed a bill to protect the lives of babies who, having survived an attempted abortion, are born alive. Despite your party’s broad support for legal abortion and its public funding, most Democrats (including Senator Clinton) did not oppose the Born-Alive Infants Protection Act. You, however, opposed it.”

It continues:

“You have asked me to vote for you. In turn, may I ask you three simple questions? They are straightforward questions of fact about abortion. They are at the heart of the debate. In fairness, I believe that you owe the people you would lead a good-faith answer to each:

1. The heart whose beating is stilled in every abortion — is it a human heart?

2. The tiny limbs torn by the abortionist’s scalpel — are they human limbs?

3. The blood that flows from the fetus’s veins — is it human blood?

If the stopped heart is a human heart, if the torn limbs are human limbs, if the spilled blood is human blood, can there be any denying that what is killed in an abortion is a human being? In your vision for America, the license to kill that human being is a right. You have worked to protect that “right” at every turn. But can there be a right to deny some human beings life or the equal protection of the law?”

Wait a minute. Am I getting this right?

People who are FOR the baby living are compared to the KKK who wanted to kill blacks, Jews, Catholics and people of mixed races?

Huh?

That makes absolutely NO sense at all. Or am I missing something?

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