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Monday, February 12, 2007

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Oh, for crying out loud. Let's exploit the children, like we did when Reagan was president, and we were treated to commercials with teenagers telling us how the world would be all over in twenty years in the post-apocalyptic era. This is disgusting.

And is this supposed to be a threat? I love it. And they call the Christians Nazis.

I cannot understand how you can believe this crap. You call Globalwarmingists like they are a group of people. what about watercycleists, haha . Global warming is a real thing. And for the people who say its not, i'm sure they believe smoking is healthy.

and about this
"Global Warming hysteria has all the earmarks of a religion. It has mythology. It has a savior (Al Gore!). It has sin, and it has easy and harsh penances (”plant trees” for the rich, renunciation and sacrifice for the rest of us). And it has an end-of-the-world scenario."

With that definition anything can have the earmarks of a religion.

This is just a bad maddox rip from somebody with a better vocabulary and a smaller intellect.

THE GLOBAL WARMING TREND REALLY OUGHT TO LAST MORE
THAN A YEAR TO LEGITIMATELY BE CALLED A TREND

There's a bit of irony here. The House hearing on "Warming of the Planet" was cancelled yesterday due to a snow/ice storm in Washington, D.C. This is the hearing that Nancy Pelosi herself appointed herself to lead. It's that important. The self-proclaimed most powerful woman in America doesn't want to leave anything to chance on such an important topic.

Also, in the St. Louis area, a showing of Al Gore's An Inconvenient Truth was cancelled because of wintry weather -- like the snow/ice storm that banded the entire state of Illinois like a big pink girdle stretching from eastern Missouri all the way to Ohio.

One of the side benefits of being married to a chemist/physicist is that his continued membership as Emeritus in the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS) brings him the journal entitled Science.

In the most recent issue dated February 8, 2007, research findings are published from a team at the Applied Physics Lab (Polar Science Center) at the University of Washington in Seattle and from the National Snow and Ice Data Center at the University of Colorado in Boulder.

Basically, these findings challenge the notion that the shrinkage of two of Greenland's glaciers during 2004 and 2005 are going to bring about a rise in the sea level and as a result the entire Atlantic coastline is going to be flooded. What these non-scientitific threateners fail to tell the public --after getting politicians and celebrities (including media talk show hosts who like to look very scientific) all excited, is that in 2006, the mass-loss of Greenland's glaciers went back to its previous rates.

The researchers say this is likely due to the fast re-equilibration of calving -- that total mass-loss is a fraction of concurrent gravity-derived estimates, pointing to an alternative source of loss and the need for high-resolution observations of outlet dynamics and glacier geometry for sea-level rise predictions.

The research team used satellite-derived elevation and velocity data. They presumed nothing.

Glacial calving isn't new. We know it's been going on since at least 1912 when the Titanic got hit by one of these giant floating boat slashers. If you want to see an animation of a huge glacier calving, watch what John Hastings captured a www.pbase.com/earthling/image/65268465. These are the Margery calves from Glacier Bay. (Awesomely beautiful sequence. It's also copyrighted.)

What I learned today while writing this blog: In order for ice to be called a glacier, it must be capable of moving. That makes sense. And what makes even more sense is that in order for a glacier to be able to calve, it must connect with water. Big water. Like an ocean or a bay.

Meanwhile, on the other side of the planet in India, an article written by Anil Anand from New Delhi, dated February 11, 2007, says there are only a dozen scientists working on some 9,575 glaciers in India.

These scientists call to task what they call the alarmist theories that say the Himalayan glaciers are shrinking due to global warming. One glaciologist -- V. K. Raina, says that to date, there has been research on a mere 50 of these glaciers in the Himalayas. He further adds that after nearly 200 years of data gathering, there has been no evidence that anything abnormal has occurred in any of these glaciers.

Raina and other scientists who are quoted in the article at www.hindustantimes.com/news/181_1925164,0008.htm have some comparisons to the Himalayan versus the Alps versus the Alaskan glaciers. But the scientists don't make much money so there's not a lot of work being carried out in the Himalayas.

Maybe, and this is just a thought, it would be a convenient time to pump some good old greenbacks into some very real science. For instance, Raina says that when he was on an expedition in the Antarctic, he was disturbed to learn that the cook made more money than he did.

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Yes, Anon, global warming is a real thing. However; anthropogenic global warming is a concoction. You have to differentiate between the two. In the last 500 million years the planet has gone through several warming and cooling cycles that we are purportedly going through now. Were humans around to be blamed for any of these? Of course not! The recent escalation in eviro-rhetoric arises from the fact that the latest research is showing the solar radiation is the number one driver of global temperature with CO2 being number 4 or 5 on the list. Also, the most recent satellite data is showing an actual drop of atmopheric temperature since 2000. Many of your people realize the the AGW house of cards is about to collapse, and are trying at a fever pitch to get your political agendas fulfilled before this happens. I can say this as a student of science (I am working on my second degree): Anyone who says that the science of AGW has been settled is either misinformed or is purposefully lying to advance their political agenda.

Rick - next time read the comment stream... it might prevent you from taking the post completely out of context.

I'm going to roast up another whooping crane over a burning truck tire to celebrate the latest BS from the Kyoto crazies.

Interesting conversation... all of which I think helps proves my point.

Also interesting in that commenters have assumed that Greanpeace is endorsing ecoterrorism. Maybe they're warning us? (There's probably some study someone could do on reactions to negative messages, ie. head in the sand, criticism of the medium, etc. Fascinating.)

Either way, I maintain that video is where it's at.

Your words Mike, from your comments. Where am I taking you out of context?

Hmmm?

What impresses me is the vile manner in which this child is addressing his adult audience. Climate shift is real -- we now look to our children for advice instead of imparting our wisdom to them. Why?

Because we are no longer wise.
We don't have to be, we can just believe everything the smart men inside the TV tell us.

Beautifully put Leslie... beautifully put...

And by the way all, Mike writes me privately in reply to my comments here to tell me:

Dude - the whole point of my post was the power of video... not global warming. Based on your view of the world (and your view of me) you've read things into it that weren't there.

I replied with a one word answer rhyming with full-spit.

UPDATE: Mike swears that the central focus of his post was on the power of video and not global warming... since then, he's posted on this:

We reported to you last week that Al Gore is going to be organizing a concert event to even further promote the issue of global warming. Yesterday, the formal announcement came: “The 24-hour event on July 7 is part of a campaign, Save Our Selves -- The Campaign for a Climate in Crisis.” The concerts will take place on seven continents, with concerts in China, South Africa, Australia, London, Japan, Brazil and the United States. It’s said that this concert, dubbed Live Earth, could reach as many as 2 billion people. "In order to solve the climate crisis, we have to reach billions of people,” Al Gore said in a statement. “The climate crisis will only be stopped by an unprecedented and sustained global movement.” More than 100 performers are scheduled to appear, including the Red Hot Chili Peppers, Bon Jovi, Snoop Dogg, Melissa Etheridge, the Foo Fighters, Lenny Kravitz, Sheryl Crow, John Mayer, Duran Duran, Korn, Pharrell, the Black Eyed Peas, Akon, Enrique Iglesias, Faith Hill and Tim McGraw. Proceeds will create a foundation to combat climate change led by The Alliance for Climate Protection, which is chaired by Gore. Don't forget to submit your video about climate change! Visit our Convenient Truths contest to find out more. Via ::CNN ::Live Earth

Yea... it's all about the power of video and not global warming.

Full-spit.

it's really amazing that we can't even agree on what we're arguing about. We should all retire to our own quarters and communicate only with those whose views we share.
Nothing would get accomplished but at least it would be quieter.

Robert... I think what's more amazing is the blatant dishonesty being used by one side of this argument... blatant...

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